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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jost,
I just finished reading &quot;Higher and Higher&quot;.
Everything you say about marijuana is what I always instinctively felt about it but had difficulty putting into words.

But right now I am interested in this quote above: &quot;Drugs are transformative substances; drugs are evolutionary tools. If you hinder the process you will finish off with a distorted growth: a young person trapped in the vision of beauty but controlled by a system that doesn’t understand them and who doesn’t show them how to realise their vision.&quot;
I&#039;m not really clear on what you are saying here.  Do you explain it further in any of your books or anywhere else on this site?

I&#039;m not sure how you see them as &quot;evolutionary tools&quot;.  I&#039;ve thought of them as tools for individual growth only in the sense that eventually they cause the user to either face himself and everything he has been running from by using drugs, (ie past traumas, emotions that the user was not willing to feel and used drugs to suppress, etc.) or face an untimely demise or the loss of everything - job, loved ones, health... .  

And I think they do a great job of creating this crisis point for people.  A crisis point that would not have been as clear cut or as quickly and efficiently created without them.  A crisis point that may have NEVER been reached in a lifetime of living if it hadn&#039;t been for the drug use.  And without such a crisis point there would have been much less of a chance for growth and change.


What are your referring to by &quot;hinder the process&quot;?
&quot;If you hinder the process you will finish off with a distorted growth: a young person trapped in the vision of beauty but controlled by a system that doesn’t understand them and who doesn’t show them how to realise their vision.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jost,<br />
I just finished reading &#8220;Higher and Higher&#8221;.<br />
Everything you say about marijuana is what I always instinctively felt about it but had difficulty putting into words.</p>
<p>But right now I am interested in this quote above: &#8220;Drugs are transformative substances; drugs are evolutionary tools. If you hinder the process you will finish off with a distorted growth: a young person trapped in the vision of beauty but controlled by a system that doesn’t understand them and who doesn’t show them how to realise their vision.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m not really clear on what you are saying here.  Do you explain it further in any of your books or anywhere else on this site?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you see them as &#8220;evolutionary tools&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve thought of them as tools for individual growth only in the sense that eventually they cause the user to either face himself and everything he has been running from by using drugs, (ie past traumas, emotions that the user was not willing to feel and used drugs to suppress, etc.) or face an untimely demise or the loss of everything &#8211; job, loved ones, health&#8230; .  </p>
<p>And I think they do a great job of creating this crisis point for people.  A crisis point that would not have been as clear cut or as quickly and efficiently created without them.  A crisis point that may have NEVER been reached in a lifetime of living if it hadn&#8217;t been for the drug use.  And without such a crisis point there would have been much less of a chance for growth and change.</p>
<p>What are your referring to by &#8220;hinder the process&#8221;?<br />
&#8220;If you hinder the process you will finish off with a distorted growth: a young person trapped in the vision of beauty but controlled by a system that doesn’t understand them and who doesn’t show them how to realise their vision.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Get Your Ex Back</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Your Ex Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend on Facebook shared this link   and I&#039;m not dissapointed at all that I came here.</description>
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		<title>By: jost</title>
		<link>http://www.jostsauer.com/interact/2009/01/bad-batch-ecstasy/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>jost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gabriel. This sounds really interesting. Please keep me up to date, I like to know how you go with implementing Arta in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gabriel. This sounds really interesting. Please keep me up to date, I like to know how you go with implementing Arta in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Jost,
Just finnished reading your book &quot;Drug Repair That Works&quot;. Awesome thought provoking read! I can totally relate with your youth work experiences.
Looking back on myself but more so some past clients, the holistic approach to withdrawal you advocate makes so much sense.  

In case you are interested, Anthroposophical medicine seems to have very similar understandings around the role of the organs in health, emotional/mental health and addiction, plus emphasises the importance of finding (spiritual) purpose in life.
Arta is a drug and alcohol rehab in Holland based on these principles, in which the first of three stages focuses predominantly on rebuilding the physical body.  I am considering how to start something like this in Australasia.
All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Jost,<br />
Just finnished reading your book &#8220;Drug Repair That Works&#8221;. Awesome thought provoking read! I can totally relate with your youth work experiences.<br />
Looking back on myself but more so some past clients, the holistic approach to withdrawal you advocate makes so much sense.  </p>
<p>In case you are interested, Anthroposophical medicine seems to have very similar understandings around the role of the organs in health, emotional/mental health and addiction, plus emphasises the importance of finding (spiritual) purpose in life.<br />
Arta is a drug and alcohol rehab in Holland based on these principles, in which the first of three stages focuses predominantly on rebuilding the physical body.  I am considering how to start something like this in Australasia.<br />
All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jost

I am currently reading your book, it came to me through a very purposeful shop visit. I am currently in the process of healing after much beautiful experiences that left me quite disenchanted with the &#039;normal&#039; world and your book has just shed so much light! Thankyou for sharing your and others experiences and helping lead the path to change.

xxx</description>
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<p>I am currently reading your book, it came to me through a very purposeful shop visit. I am currently in the process of healing after much beautiful experiences that left me quite disenchanted with the &#8216;normal&#8217; world and your book has just shed so much light! Thankyou for sharing your and others experiences and helping lead the path to change.</p>
<p>xxx</p>
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